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On the organisation of English universities

by Troels Forchhammer <Troels@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 18, 2008 at 06:29 PM

When I went to university in Denmark, the institution was organised 
in a way that it is my impression differs significantly from the 
organisation of English Universities that Tolkien would have 
experienced, both as a student and as a fellow. Therefore I am asking 
to have my impression of how things are -- or were -- organised in 
England either confirmed or corrected. I am, of course, particularly 
interested in the organisation Tolkien would have experienced both at 
Oxford (both as a student and as a fellow) and at Leeds. 

My impression is that the English universities were (and perhaps 
still are?) organised primarily around the 'colleges' -- institutions 
to which students and fellows are associated, where they live (though 
not necessarily) and eat. Such colleges, as I've understood it, are 
not particular to one subject -- that all subjects would co-exist 
under the same roof, so to speak (though I suppose that colleges 
would also -- and perhaps often so -- have particular strengths). 
This would, I suppose, mean that the people at the universities would 
have specialist communities in addition to the college communities, 
where physicists, philologists, theologists etc. from several 
colleges would work together on their special topics. 

If this impression is correct, then one must assume that the 
communities of fellows have a strong cross-discipline scholarly 
community, where every fellow, regardless of his or her particular 
subject, has rich op****tunities to learn of the hot topics in other 
subjects, and that Tolkien in particular almost certainly will have 
had some idea of the new ground being broken by physics in the first 
half of the twentieth century -- new ground covering both quantum 
physics and relativity. 

It is this latter issue that makes me ask this question. I am reading 
Verlyn Flieger's /A Question of Time/, and though she has, in her 
first chapters, an excellent overview of the growth of philosophical 
and literary treatments of Time in the first half of the century, I 
think she fails to recognize (at least in these chapters) the ways 
this was tied to the development of the new physics; how ideas arose 
in an interplay of physics, literature and philosophy to the 
enrichment of all the subjects. In the first half of the twentieth 
century -- and in the time between the two great wars, the senior 
common room of any college (if my impression of how such are 
organized is correct) will have been buzzing with the new things 
happening in physics, and Tolkien can hardly have avoided taking in 
some of this (in the context of Flieger's book it appears to me very 
likely that Tolkien would have heard about the idea of space-time and 
of some of its properties). 

-- 
Troels Forchhammer
Valid e-mail is <troelsfo(a)gmail.com>
Please put [AFT], [RABT] or 'Tolkien' in subject.

    Smile 
    a while
    ere day
        is done
    and all
    your gall
    will soon
        be gone.
 - Piet Hein, /Advice at Nightfall/
 




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On the organisation of English universities
Troels Forchhammer <Tr  2008-05-18 18:29:16 
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Julian Bradfield <jcb@  2008-05-18 20:16:51 
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Count Menelvagor <Mene  2008-05-18 14:35:55 
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"Öjevind Lång"   2008-05-19 19:37:43 
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Steve Hayes <hayesmstw  2008-05-20 07:09:08 
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Dirk Thierbach <dthier  2008-05-19 15:49:26 
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Troels Forchhammer <Tr  2008-05-19 20:43:56 
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Derek Broughton <news@  2008-05-19 19:44:22 
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Dirk Thierbach <dthier  2008-05-19 22:43:04 
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Troels Forchhammer <Tr  2008-05-20 21:28:40 
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Dirk Thierbach <dthier  2008-05-21 09:27:53 
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Julian Bradfield <jcb@  2008-05-21 10:42:48 
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Dirk Thierbach <dthier  2008-05-21 12:12:51 
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Julian Bradfield <jcb@  2008-05-21 15:56:59 
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Dirk Thierbach <dthier  2008-05-21 17:51:05 
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Steve Morrison <rimage  2008-05-21 14:32:11 
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Dirk Thierbach <dthier  2008-05-22 09:17:45 
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Troels Forchhammer <Tr  2008-05-21 20:46:46 
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Dirk Thierbach <dthier  2008-05-22 08:46:17 
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Troels Forchhammer <Tr  2008-05-22 14:50:22 
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Derek Broughton <news@  2008-05-22 15:12:59 
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Stan Brown <the_stan_b  2008-05-21 18:10:36 
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Julian Bradfield <jcb@  2008-05-22 10:21:55 
OT: Time-travel and Relativity (was: On the organisation...)
Dirk Thierbach <dthier  2008-05-22 14:55:46 
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Julian Bradfield <jcb@  2008-05-22 15:37:13 
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Dirk Thierbach <dthier  2008-05-22 19:11:09 
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Julian Bradfield <jcb@  2008-05-23 12:10:01 
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Dirk Thierbach <dthier  2008-05-24 08:57:41 
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Dirk Thierbach <dthier  2008-05-25 18:18:12 
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Dirk Thierbach <dthier  2008-05-26 09:56:14 
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"BaJoRi" <ba  2008-05-27 19:11:44 
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Troels Forchhammer <Tr  2008-05-28 00:08:13 
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Troels Forchhammer <Tr  2008-05-21 21:41:00 
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Dirk Thierbach <dthier  2008-05-22 08:33:25 
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Troels Forchhammer <Tr  2008-05-22 14:25:40 
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Dirk Thierbach <dthier  2008-05-23 08:44:22 
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Troels Forchhammer <Tr  2008-05-23 13:42:44 
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Dirk Thierbach <dthier  2008-05-25 17:53:45 
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Stan Brown <the_stan_b  2008-05-21 07:25:07 
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Paul S. Person <pspers  2008-05-20 10:19:25 
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RPN <rpn00@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-20 06:29:48 
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Troels Forchhammer <Tr  2008-05-20 21:42:09 
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Dirk Thierbach <dthier  2008-05-20 23:41:48 
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Troels Forchhammer <Tr  2008-05-21 07:55:43 
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Dirk Thierbach <dthier  2008-05-21 11:48:26 
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Steve Morrison <rimage  2008-05-21 14:47:20 
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Dirk Thierbach <dthier  2008-05-22 08:07:02 
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JimboCat <103134.3516@  2008-05-21 11:26:21 
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Troels Forchhammer <Tr  2008-05-21 23:28:12 
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JimboCat <103134.3516@  2008-05-23 08:00:48 

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